Spacelog Apollo 8

Roger. Understand the optics are doing better than the eyeballs. How about the cameras?

We always have the same smear to look through. The rendezvous windows are okay, but they're so small and looking in the wrong directions here so far.

Roger.

I think the vertical stereo will be okay.

It certainly looks like we're picking the more interesting places on the moon to land in. The backside looks like a sand pile my kids have been playing in for a long time. It's all beat up, no definition. Just a lot of bumps and holes.

I'm looking at 2P-2 right now, Houston, and it's a great spot.

The area we're over right now gives some hint of possible volcanic, though I really can't eyeball it at the moment to pin that down. There are some craters and buildups that just definitely suggest volcanic activity.

Roger. Understand, Bill, and understand Jim thinks the old 2P-2 is a winner.

Yes, that backside doesn't look good at all.

Roger.

That's relatively speaking, of course.

Apollo 8, Houston.

This is Apollo 8.

Roger, Jim. We have you on the high-gain antenna. We'd like you to take the DSE and dump it over.

Roger, Houston. Are you going to use our computer to update our state vector?

That's affirmative, Jim. We'd like to—stand by one, and I'll tell you when to go to P00 and ACCEPT.

Roger. Then I'll work my 52 around your …

Jim, would you please go to P00 in ACCEPT, and we'll send you a P27 and run a state vector update.

Roger. You have P00 in ACCEPT.

Thank you.

Houston, this is Apollo 8. We have a little piece of useful information if you're interested in deliberating over it.

Go ahead. Say again.

Roger. Our first control point is very near the terminator, and as the optics were tracking it, I had occasion to watch the sun come up. And at about 2 minutes before sunrise, you get—the limb begins to brighten up into sort of a fine white haze, a fine glow completely over the space just behind the limb.

Roger. I understand. About 2 minutes before the sun comes up, you get a fine white haze radiating out from behind the limb. How far out does it extend?

It goes up quite a ways. It takes a fan shape, unlike the sunrise on earth where the atmosphere affects it. This just sort of is a complete haze all over the local area. It's concentrated at the exact spot where the sun comes up at ignition and then goes away from the sun spots. Very interesting.

Thank you, Jim. Thank you.

Apollo 8, Houston. We're standing by with your map and TEI 7 updates.

Stand by.

Apollo 8, Houston. You can go back to BLOCK with your computer.

Roger.

Okay, Mike. We're ready for the map update and then the TEI.

Okay. When you get your—before you get your map book out, the Houston COMM TECHS have got a little word for an old ex-CAP COMM. They say they consider you in NONREMOTE. Over.

Not permanently, I hope.

Okay. Your map update for REV 6/7: LOS 80:57:24, sunrise 81:06:57, prime meridian 81:13:02. Are you with me?

You cut out after the prime meridian. I got it, but not AOS.

AOS 81:43:05, sunset 82:13:54. Remarks: IP-1 TCA for B-1 82:07:39, and now I've got four more times for you which—acquisition times for when various things come over the horizon. Over.

Roger. Go ahead.

Okay. Control point 1, acquisition time 81:09:05; control point 2, acquisition time 81:21:48; control point 3, acquisition time 81:43:17. B-1 acquisition time 82:03:54. And I say again all those ACQ times are when they first come over the horizon. Over.

Roger. Copy, Houston. In about 2 seconds, I'll be ready for the TEI.

Alright.

I'm ready.

TEI 7, SPS/G&N—stand by one, Bill.

Just a matter of general interest, Houston: everybody is feeling good, and the CDR is taking a snooze.

Roger. Glad to hear it. We were just talking about a water dump down here. We've got one coming up, and it looks like on this REV prior to the time around LOS or just prior to LOS, would be a convenient time to do it. Do you concur?

Okay. We will. Down to 25 percent again?

That's affirmative, and we'd also be interested in any comments about what these various dumps have done to your optics, if anything, and how long the effects last after a dump.

Don't seem to have done anything to the optics, but they've definitely got in some of the windows. There are a few little chunks of ice on window number 1, which is nearest the vent, and also on window number 5 a little bit; windows 2 and 4 remain amazingly clear.

Roger. Thank you, Bill, and I'm ready to resume the PAD when you are.

Okay. Press on with the weight.

Alright. Weight 45701, minus 040, plus 157 083:18:20.80, plus 32346, minus 01168, plus 05730. Are you with me so far? Over.

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Go ahead, Mike.

Roger. I got down through DELTA-V, minus X, minus Y, and minus Z. Did you copy those? Over.

No, I didn't read a word. I'm still waiting for the weight.

Roger. Let's go back to the weight: 45701, minus 040, plus 157. Are you with me? Over.

Sounds good.

Okay. GETI 083:18:20.80, plus 32346, minus 01168, plus 4—correction, plus 05730. Are you with me? Over.

Roger.

Roger. TEI 7 SPS/G&N: 45701, minus 040, plus 157 083:18:20.80, plus 32346, minus 01168, plus 05730 179 9—correction, 009 001, NA. Are you with me?

Yes, I'm with you, Bill.

Plus 00187 32870 307 32676 32—correction, 420880 253033, down 121, left 27, plus 0790, minus 16500 12973 36238 146:44:14; same north set Sirius and Rigel, 129 155 010; four-jet, 15 seconds, 2 degrees, now horizon and peak.

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Go ahead, Houston.

Roger. You got your DSE back, and you are GO for the next lunar orbit. Over.

Roger. How far did you want us to dump that water?

Twenty-five percent, please, Bill.

Roger. Twenty-five percent.

Houston, Apollo 8.

Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.

Are you receiving our tracking data?

That's affirmative, Jim. We are receiving.

Okay. Thank you.

And also, Jim, we are—That last P27 we sent was for the LM state vector only, and it will require a VERB 47 ENTER to transfer to the CSM slot. Over.

Roger. Will do.

Okay. We're dumping the waste tank now, Houston.

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Go ahead, Houston.

Roger. We've got 4 minutes til LOS, and everything is looking good down here.

Roger. How much longer do you think we have to go into battery charge there, Mike?

I'll find out for you.

If you can wake up the EECOM, why don't you have him ask the back room?

Oh, you really know how to hurt a guy.

Apollo 8, Houston. We estimate the charge will be complete in another 45 minutes. Over.

Apollo 8, Houston. One minute til LOS, and standing by.

Okay. See you on the other side, Mike.

Looking forward to it.

Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.

Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.

Houston, Apollo 8.

Roger, Frank. Good morning. You're loud and clear, how me?

Loud and clear.

Welcome back.

Thank you.

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Go ahead, Houston.

Roger. We have a request that Jim space his marks, his five marks out a bit more slowly. If possible, we would like to get a couple of them past the zenith. We're getting five of them with rather rapid spacing, and from the geometry viewpoint, it would be better if you'd slow them down a little bit and lengthened them out so as to include a couple of them past the zenith. Over.

Roger. We understand.

Houston, Apollo 8. That last set of marks are invalid. Disregard what Jim drew the last time.

Roger. Understand the last set of marks are invalid. Over.

Roger. If you would correlate … the last set.

We have an awful lot of background noise, Jim. Could you say again, please?

Roger. I'm coming up on control point 3. I tried to stick another control point in between 2 and 3. It didn't do it, so I just took out our program, marked it down on the program.

Apollo 8, Houston.

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Roger. On Jim's marks, we'd like to get spacing of approximately 30, 30 seconds between each mark. The last ones we are copying roughly 15 seconds between marks, and we would like to stretch it out even further if that is okay with you.

Houston, Apollo 8.

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Roger, Mike. I find that tracking is much easier using the sextant than the scanning telescope. You have finer control, and at these orbital speeds, resolved to medium seem to be the best combination.

Roger, Jim. I copy that it's easier for you to use the sextant than the scanning telescope. It gives you finer control, and say again after that.

Apollo 8, Houston. Do you read?

Roger. Did you copy?

Roger. I copy that it's—tracking is easier using the sextant than the scanning telescope; it gives you finer control, and say again after that. Over.

And the combination of resolved and medium is perhaps the best combination of—combination of—speed low is too low; we can't catch up with the target.

Roger. Understand that the best combination is resolved and medium. Low is just too low.

Houston, Apollo 8.

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Roger. I'm not too sure what happened that time, Mike. I was marking on the landing sites, using the code, and I kept getting a large trunnion for AUTO OPTICS. And I could see the target, or landing site was coming up, so I just went manually and marked and got the—the latitude and longitude were quite different from the nominal.

Apollo 8, Houston.

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Roger. We're checking into Jim's remarks on his P22; and in the meantime, I have your maneuver PAD's and map updates, at your convenience. Over.

Roger.

Go ahead with your data, Mike.

Okay. And before that, we'd like to take the DSE away from you, please, for a while.

All yours.

Thank you, and we'd like you to go to P00 and ACCEPT. We have a P27 state vector update for you.

There's P00, and I'm going to ACCEPT.

Thank you.

All yours.

Which would you like first, the map update or the TEI 8?

The map would be fine.