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05 01 12 05
Frank Borman (CDR): Right.
05 01 13 08
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Your friendly guidance officer has got a LM vector update for you and a CMC time update. Over.
05 01 13 17
Frank Borman (CDR): Okay. We'll go to P00. P00 in ACCEPT.
05 01 13 29
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger.
05 01 19 56
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, this is Houston. The updates are complete. The computer is yours. You can go to BLOCK.
05 01 20 05
Frank Borman (CDR): Roger; BLOCK.
05 01 20 50
Frank Borman (CDR): Houston. We won't transfer that state vector, since we are not going to do that MCC. Is that all right?
05 01 20 58
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Okay. Real fine, Frank.
05 01 21 03
Frank Borman (CDR): Roger.
05 01 22 53
Frank Borman (CDR): Houston, Apollo 8.
05 01 22 56
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Go.
05 01 23 00
Frank Borman (CDR): We are proceeding with the chlorination.
05 01 23 03
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger.
05 01 56 27
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. BIOMED switch to CENTER, please.
05 01 56 34
Frank Borman (CDR): Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one.
05 01 56 40
Frank Borman (CDR): MARK.
05 01 56 41
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger.
05 01 56 45
Jim Lovell (CMP): Old joke.
05 02 30 56
Frank Borman (CDR): Houston, Apollo 8. How do you read?
05 02 31 00
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Loud and clear.
05 02 31 03
Frank Borman (CDR): Okay, thank you, we are starting the P23.
05 02 31 09
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger, Frank.
05 02 32 41
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
05 02 32 44
Frank Borman (CDR): Go ahead.
05 02 32 45
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, this is Houston. We have lost all CMC data on you. The last data we had showed a high and middle gimbal angle. Over.
05 02 32 56
Frank Borman (CDR): No. I'm fine. How come you lost those CMC data.
05 02 33 01
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): I think maybe it was just your movement—movement out of PTC.
05 02 33 07
Frank Borman (CDR): I see, fine. Thank you, it was high. I was watching it though.
05 02 33 11
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Okay. We have data now.
05 02 50 33
Frank Borman (CDR): Houston, Apollo 8.
05 02 50 36
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
05 02 50 39
Frank Borman (CDR): We are noticing our quad A helium tank is starting to go up again. You got any ideas on that.
05 02 50 45
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Yes. We are watching it too, Frank. So far, it's still okay and we are talking about it.
05 02 50 54
Frank Borman (CDR): Okay.
05 02 51 26
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
05 02 51 30
Frank Borman (CDR): Go ahead.
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05 02 51 31
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger, Frank, this helium tank in quad A—it looks like we may have bothered you up unnecessarily on this thing. It appears to be no problem as best as we can tell. We got a few of the minds together talking about it, and it's been down rated quite a bit. Also there—the folks down here monitoring the P23 suspect that Jim is shooting on star number 22 rather 02, so he may be having-some problems.
05 02 52 01
Jim Lovell (CMP): Oh no. We've changed; we are on star 02 on the moon.
05 02 52 07
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Okay.
05 02 52 25
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Frank, I may have to add some names to my chicken list.
05 02 52 31
Frank Borman (CDR): About what?
05 02 52 33
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Helium tank A, quad A.
05 02 52 37
Frank Borman (CDR): Roger. I just don't want to be the one that proves the fracture mechanics people are right.
05 02 52 45
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger, Frank.
05 02 52 54
Frank Borman (CDR): This attitude is going to have us right square into the sun, too.
05 02 53 00
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger.
05 03 22 08
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
05 03 22 13
Frank Borman (CDR): Go ahead.
05 03 22 14
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. We are going to need some data from your past P23 marks. We missed some items, and so don't put it away and when you finish this next P23 we'll get it all together.
05 03 22 27
Frank Borman (CDR): Okay.
05 03 22 28
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger. Got some information for you on this PTC that we'll be going to right after this next P23 exercise. We'd like you this time to try the nose north attitude, that's pitch of 180, and a yaw of 315, and also we'd like to give another look at this mode free type of PTC and we think maybe we'll get a little bit of spin stabilization if we try it at 0.3 degrees per second on the roll rate rather than 0.1. So if you figure on doing that at 124:30 we'll see what kind of information we can get out of it.
05 03 23 14
Frank Borman (CDR): Okay. You know what I think of that, don't you? I'll be happy to do it, but I think it's playing games.
05 03 23 22
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger, Frank, you're burning right now 1.4 pounds per hour with attitude hold in pitch and yaw. We're kind of interested to see if 0.3 degrees per second will reduce your RCS usage due to spin stabilization.
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05 03 23 40
Frank Borman (CDR): Yes, I know. I predict that it will not.
05 03 23 45
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Okay.
05 03 23 48
Frank Borman (CDR): Jerry, I'm a little concerned about the temperature. We're getting kind of warm in here, and also the evaporator outlet temperature is up around 45 degrees. Do you have any trend that we're getting less efficient operation of the radiators?
05 03 24 15
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Frank, EECOM says everything looks nominal down here. You might try a change in your cabin temperature heat exchanger there.
05 03 24 26
Frank Borman (CDR): No, we don't have the fans on, but what we have done is put up a window shade. That seems to help it. We've been getting a lot more sun in the cabin this way.
05 03 24 35
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger. We'll keep a sharp eye on things and keep you posted.
05 03 24 40
Frank Borman (CDR): Roger. I don't mind playing games because, you guys have been very nice in the five and a half days. If you want to play games in the next half hour, we'll play.
05 03 24 48
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger, Frank.
05 03 25 09
Frank Borman (CDR): Jim is trying this set with the eye relief optics so we can give you some information on that.
05 03 25 15
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Okay.
05 03 25 49
Frank Borman (CDR): I think it would be very difficult to extrapolate anything that you are getting out of this bit business to a LM-command module combination, because the spacecraft handles quit a bit different just with the change of fuel load, including the difference in drifting off and roll.
05 03 26 07
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger, Frank. We just got finished discussing that, too. We agree with your point of view on that one. I think this is more of a curiosity thing than anything at all.
05 03 26 18
Jim Lovell (CMP): I think it's fine. No sweat. We don't have anything else to do here for about another 10 hours.
05 03 26 20
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Okay.
05 03 26 27
Jim Lovell (CMP): Jerry, what I'm kind of curious about is the fuel usage. Now with P23 and what we were doing, we have a lot more fuel.
05 03 26 57
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Jim, we'll take a look at that fuel usage bit. Right now, the trend looks like it is getting better as we would expect with a lighter weight.
05 03 27 10
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): We'll try to get a little more definitive for you here.
05 03 27 14
Jim Lovell (CMP): Okay.
05 03 27 15
Frank Borman (CDR): We really—we shouldn't complain about the fuel usage on that SPS engine though, because we're sure getting a lot of miles per gallon out of it.
05 03 27 27
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger, Frank. Frank, we'll enter you in the Shell road test on that.
05 03 27 29
Frank Borman (CDR): Yes, we don't have any TCP in it, or what is that, TCP? Yes. That's the problem. If we'd had that, we would have probably used only half the fuel.
05 03 27 47
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Oh, you mean Platformate?
05 03 27 50
Frank Borman (CDR): That's right, Platformate.
05 03 28 02
Frank Borman (CDR): If you will get the people to spread out one of those banners around the target area, we'll try to break it, you know, and coast through it.
05 03 28 11
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Okay. We'll call some of the paper companies and see if they can find a roll big enough.
05 03 28 17
Frank Borman (CDR): It won't take a big roll, just about 30 feet.
05 03 28 21
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger.
05 03 28 26
Jim Lovell (CMP): Onboard NAV.
05 03 28 36
Frank Borman (CDR): Tell the doctors that we put William to sleep.
05 03 28 41
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger. You won't leave any scars will you?
05 03 28 47
Frank Borman (CDR): No. No, he's got his tape recorder with him.
05 03 29 10
Frank Borman (CDR): Bill said to call Valerie and have her to rewind the tape recorder—his tape recorder at home.
05 03 30 55
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
05 03 30 57
Frank Borman (CDR): Go ahead.
05 03 30 58
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): I hate to tell you this, Frank, because Jim probably won't even be able to wear his COMM carrier anymore, but that last set of marks put your state vector right on top of the MSFN state vector.
05 03 31 10
Jim Lovell (CMP): Come off that, Jerry. Come on; you promised.
05 03 31 14
Jim Lovell (CMP): I'll get you that bottle of brandy when I get home, Jerry.
05 03 31 19
Frank Borman (CDR): Maybe we can get him to go to PROGRAM 01 again today, too.
05 03 31 24
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger. That sounds good.
05 03 32 04
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Also, on the flight plan for 124:30, we would like for you to run an O₂ purge on the fuel cells.
05 03 32 17
Frank Borman (CDR): Okay.
05 03 33 24
Frank Borman (CDR): Hey, Jerry. We were going over the checklist on entry here, you know?
05 03 33 28
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger, Frank.
05 03 33 30
Frank Borman (CDR): I've got a question. Is John Harpold around?
05 03 33 40
Jerry Carr (CAPCOM): Roger. He is listening.
05 03 33 44
Frank Borman (CDR): John, I can't remember. Is the lift vector up head-down or —
05 03 33 59
Jim Lovell (CMP): Jerry, I'm beginning to worry up here.

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