Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. This is—we would like him to do them, as I say, whenever he is through the series he is on now, and they are the same ones that are printed on your flight plan page 2-86. The first one we'd like to increase to two sets; the second one we'd like to increase to two sets, making a total of five sets on those stars on page 2-86. Do you copy?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. The other change is on an elapsed time of 120—a hundred and twenty hours: we'd like to increase that P23 work, the first star change, from one set to two sets. The second star from one to two —

Bill Anders (LMP)

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. Looking for the page; I got it now.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. The first star, make two sets; second star, two sets; for a total of five sets.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

And if you're in a copying mood, I have—would you believe—a couple of changes to your entry checklist which I'd like to read up to you sometime today or tomorrow.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. Why don't we get them here after this one set of stars.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger, Bill. I was just given a new one here. While you've got your flight plan out, this would be 130 hours GET. Have you got that page?

Bill Anders (LMP)

I just put it away, but I'll get it out again.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. At 130 hours GET, star 02: Where it is printed two sets, we'd like to make that only one set; and then we would like to add star 11 (star one—one) lunar far horizon, two sets. Over.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Hey, Mike. Is MIT slipping in the back door?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Not really, Jim. It has to do with this W-matrix. You remember that we reinitialized it in lunar orbit, and then we worked on it as you came back on the previous sightings you made, and now we've gone and reinitialized it again at this point. And we'd like to restore it to its former size and shape and whatnot.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Mike, I have got the entry checklist right now. You want to give me an update?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay, Bill. Thank you. The first one is on page E-7.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay, Mike. Ready to go. Now I know why Neil was over there.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

No. You can't blame it on him. Page E-7 under CM RCS preheat, halfway down where it says “UP TELEMETRY BLOCK”—Are you with me?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. After UP TELEMETRY BLOCK, insert “RCS CM heaters circuit breakers to CLOSE.”

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

All they are doing there is just making sure you get your heater circuit breakers closed. The next one is on page E-9.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. On E-9 up near the top under “terminate CM RCS preheat” and the middle there, after “CM RCS heaters OFF, LMP confirm,” insert “RCS CM heaters circuit breakers to OPEN.” That's just opening those two breakers back up.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

And the last change is on page 14.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Yes. This one should be a favorite of yours. Near the top where it says “tape recorder, RECORD FORWARD”- Are you with me?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Insert between “tape recorder” and “RECORD FORWARD,” insert “COMMAND RESET high bit rate.” Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Thank you, Bill. That's all.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

How is it going? Do you want any systems dope?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Yes, they are hanging together. I haven't even looked at them for the last half hour. I have been over here in the sun.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Yes, they sure are, Bill. They can get you any specific numbers, whatnot, if you're interested.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Well, I hate to say I wasn't interested, but I don't need any specific numbers right now.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. Very good. We concur.

Bill Anders (LMP)

On second thought, how's the evaporator outlet TEMP doing?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Forty-six degrees, Bill.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Cancel that outer space first.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

How's Magellan coming along?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

I am getting a crossed eye looking at this thing. Hey, Mike, just as a matter of interest, I have been just looking at the earth the last hour and a half and there are two tremendous storms down there. I am not sure just where they are, but the vortices are huge.

Bill Anders (LMP)

That's your first space weather report at the manned weather forecast from space, and he's not so sure where it's raining, but it is raining somewhere.

Bill Anders (LMP)

I'd also like to point out that Magellan is not a good analogy. I would also like to point out that Magellan is not a good analogy. I don't think he made it around.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

How about Alford Chitister?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

I don't know how much detail you can see, Jim, but your subspacecraft point is out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean about halfway between Australia and South America.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. The next time I take a look, I'll see what I—we are maneuver to the moon now. We'll see if we can see our shadow.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Seriously, has anyone been able to see the spacecraft from earth? Optically?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

We don't think so, Bill. We haven't been able to confirm that they have.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

You are coming right down the center line of the airways. If you see the airliners going the other way, you better move over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

That's the first time old Lovell's been on track for a long time.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Mike, an interesting viewpoint of the NAV sightings: maneuvering with the minimum impulse controller on the way home is a lot more difficult than going out because of all the fuel we don't have now. Every little pulse really moves the spacecraft around.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. Understand. You have too much control for you.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Howdy, Jim. Dick Underwood is over here. They're getting their film processing all prepared for your film when you get back and tentatively, can you give us some idea of how much you exposed?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Let me — let me introduce you to the great film man. He will tell you all about it.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Tell him I hope he can account for haze through the windows. We—on our departure from the moon, we tried to burn up as much as—much of what we had left over, which was quite a bit, and tell him I hope he can develop the high-speed film taken at normal film settings.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. Understand you used just about everything and a lot of the high speed; you used it to normal setting.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Roger. We got it in the wrong bucket there a couple of times.

Bill Anders (LMP)

We never did have a chance to do any night earthshine stuff.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Say again about the earthshine, Bill.

Bill Anders (LMP)

We never did have a chance to do any earthshine photography.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. How are you coming along with your P23 marks?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

My eyeballs are getting square. That's what we have been doing most of the day, Ken. Are you receiving the data down below?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Roger. Looks like you are getting some pretty good marks. We have a pretty good hack on the vector and the matrix, and looks like if you wanted to terminate at this point, that we do have good data.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Sounds good. I'll terminate after this —

Jim Lovell (CMP)

— trying to do star 01 again.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Ken, did you have a nice Christmas?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Did you call?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Houston, Apollo 8. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Who is this, Ken or Jerry?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay, Ken. We are getting back to the PTC attitude. Would you like us to do this high-gain REACQ test now on the first roll?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. Look, how about if I just went to REACQ right now?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Matter of fact I'm in REACQ. If you want me to stay here, why we'll just press on.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay, Apollo 8. That is fine.

Bill Anders (LMP)

I guess this step about stopping in roll 150 really doesn't matter too much then.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

That's right, Bill. That was just to let you acquire.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Man, we can acquire on the run here.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Hey, you are getting good at that.

Bill Anders (LMP)

That's all they'll let me do.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. We will keep it here for two REV's, Ken. Frank and—Frank and Jim are asleep, and … so I'll just keep it going here for two rolls.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Houston, Apollo 8. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Well, the REACQ didn't work as advertised. It looked like it went on by the scan limit and into the mechanical limit and followed MSFN around looking, out of the corner of its eye on WIDE BEAM. And when MSFN came back underneath the spacecraft, why it snapped back on it to NARROW BEAM. It apparently never broke lock; or if it did, it was only instantaneously.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Roger. It looked like we did break lock there for about 8 minutes.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Well, we might have broken two way lock, but I was still having about AGC right at the noise level, at the minimum reception level.

Bill Anders (LMP)

When we get out here in the clear zone, when we're definitely out of the scan limit, why, I'll go ahead and go to the MANUAL and AUTO lock-on sequence and switch over to REACQ and see what it does next time around.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Houston. Were you able to get high bit rate from the OMNI's now, by the way?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. The OMNI high bit rate capability is noisy, but usable.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. I think what we'll do here is, if I see the high gain definitely going past the scan limit before it gets the mechanical limit, I'll go ahead and ask—you could ask if the REACQ feature hasn't taken over I'll just go ahead and shut it down so that it'll remain in stops.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

We are talking about it now, Bill.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. It's my understanding that the scan warning limit of this thing is supposed to stop tracking; and break of lock, it'll travel on over to the thumb-wheel settings.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Roger. That's my understanding, Bill. We are talking about it right now. I'll let you know in just a second.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Probably, Ken, we are not ever losing the earth's present signal.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Hey, Bill, can you tell us what angles this went through? The curve that we have plotted is apparently the RF limit rather than the mechanical limit; and discussing the function of the AUTO REACQ mode, it looks like it is supposed to shift when it hits the RF limit, which is your—should be your ENTER set of numbers as opposed to the scan warning limit. And if it went inside of that number, could you tell us about what kind of numbers it did go to?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Roger. It went past the caution warning limit to the scan or RF limit, as I understand it. And let me give you a rundown on what it did here.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Say it slow so I can copy it.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. The antenna went to about 330 to 270 yaw, plus 60 to 80 pitch. Copy?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. The AGC dropped off to what I call our noise level, that was the voltage level on the AGC measured at—integrated when the noise broke in. It was about 11 o'clock position on the gage, and it looked like it was switching beam widths there off and on. It would pulse up and down, and a couple of times dropped to full-scale low very briefly.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. You got some marks on that AGC that should register in volts, I believe. Do you have an indication other than 11 o'clock?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Unfortunately, the numbers never got on here. If you will look on that chart that Fred Haise has, it shows one at 11 o'clock position which is the noise level. I don't remember what the voltage was. I might have it on my systems book, though.

Bill Anders (LMP)

When the antenna—when the antenna did snap back in, it went to yaw 60, pitch minus 5, with VERB 64 reading plus 67 for yaw and minus 10 for pitch.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Yes, copy all that. I think you have four or five marks on that power meter, don't you? From what you are saying, I take it, it's between marks 2 and 4.

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Bill Anders (LMP)

Yes. Stand by a second.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Stand by, Ken. I'll tell you what that mode is.