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03 04 57 08
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): People listening to the high bit rate down here say it's like sitting in your living room listening to good hi-fi.
03 04 57 21
Frank Borman (CDR): Sounds like a good idea.
03 04 58 03
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Coming up on 2 minutes to LOS. We got a good reservice on the primary evaporator, and everything is still looking very good down here.
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Frank Borman (CDR): Okay. Thank you.
03 04 59 12
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. One minute to LOS. Are you still reading us loud and clear?
03 04 59 18
Frank Borman (CDR): Loud and clear. Loud and clear.
03 04 59 20
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Okay, fine. We've been noticing a little bit of increase in our background noise as you approach backside.
03 04 59 30
Frank Borman (CDR): Roger. We had to go off the high gain. That's why.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Have a good backside; we'll see you next time around.
03 04 59 49
Frank Borman (CDR): Okay, Mike.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.
03 05 47 05
Bill Anders (LMP): Houston, Apollo 8. Go ahead.
03 05 47 07
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Read you loud and clear. Welcome back.
03 05 47 13
Bill Anders (LMP): Roger. Looks like the evaporator—looks like the evaporator is holding okay, or at least it is trying to. It dropped the temperature down to about 32, and now it's come back up again and stabilized at about 42 degrees.
03 05 47 31
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Copy you, Bill.
03 05 48 41
Jim Lovell (CMP): Houston, Apollo 8.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. Houston, this is Apollo 8. What we are doing on the control point tracking—I managed to look for a CP-1 at the same time we were trying to do a CP-2 on this rev. I picked up two marks which are just as small, but more easily recognizable, than the ones that were given to me. I know that I can repeat the process and pick the same small point on the next rev. Now I can try to look for the control points that are written down, but I think that I have better control over the ones that we have.
03 05 49 29
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger, Jim. Understand. We'll check that for you.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. One more point: the control point times which you have given me are a little bit off, and I can notice by comparing these maps that these maps are not too well aligned either.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. These two small points that you can repeat your marks on: will you be able to identify those precisely on a map? Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): That's affirmative; that is why I picked them. They are both—they're both very prominent features, and they are both very small craters about the same size as the ones we are looking for, but I can pinpoint them on a map.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Houston, Apollo 8.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. One more comment: as it offered a lot of controversy at data priority meetings, it looks like 10 degrees pitch up is the best attitude to obtain the horizon so that you can follow the landmark down through the scanning telescope. If you pitch down any more, full up trunnion will not get the horizon, and the horizon is a great help in leading yourself into the control point.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Understand.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Go ahead.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Jim, we concur with your use of the two small craters which you can repeatedly mark on and find on the map; and also if you will give us your new latitudes and longitudes, we can compute for you a time of closest approach to those points with the spacecraft 10 degrees pitched-up. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger, Houston. CP-1 latitude minus 606269, longitude over 2, minus 78954, altitude plus 00152; for CP-2 latitude minus 09638, longitude over 2, plus 81691, altitude minus 00007. I tried to get CP-3 at the same pass, but I let it go by to get set up for this first track at the landing site.
03 05 54 05
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger, Houston. CP-1: would you say again the latitude, and on CP-2, say again the longitude CP-2, please?
03 05 54 15
Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. CP-1 latitude minus 06269; that is the latitude; and for longitude over 2 for CP-2, plus 81691.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Okay. We copied them. Thank you.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): And it appears that resolve medium is a very good combination to track.
03 05 54 53
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. I understand. Resolve medium.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): And it appears so far, Houston, that no spacecraft pitch motion is required to get five marks on the target in plenty of time.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. I understand you require no spacecraft motion to get five marks.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Go ahead.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Go ahead, Houston.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. I am about 15 minutes early with the TEI fix update and the map update. I will have them here whenever it's convenient for you to copy.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Okay. Just a little bit, Mike.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Go ahead.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. We would like to ask you to stop using AUTO OPTICS on the pseudo landing site. It's necessary that we send you up a P27 to update the RLS values stored in the computer. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. I found … I went to MANUAL OPTICS on B-1.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Understand.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Over.
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Frank Borman (CDR): Go ahead, Houston.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. If you would go to P00 and ACCEPT, please, we are going to send you a P27 load which will update an RLS value which will be followed by a procedural change, Jim, we will give you later; and AUTO OPTICS should be working shortly.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. Or I could use no landmark AUTO OPTICS instead of the code.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. We are also sending you up a state vector update at the same time.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Okay. We will be expecting that.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. We're taking the DSE for a dump. Over.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Go ahead, Houston.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. We would like to take Bill's DSE for a dump. Over.
03 06 18 44
Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. Go ahead.
03 06 18 46
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Thank you.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Houston, Apollo 8. We're ready for the—your updates, your PAD's.
03 06 24 38
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Roger. I have updates, a map update for REV 5/6, and TEI 6 update. Which would you like first?
03 06 24 51
Bill Anders (LMP): Okay. I've got the map update page now. Why don't you give me that one?
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Okay. Map update for REV 5/6. LOS 78:58:49, sunrise 79:08:07, prime meridian 79:14:30, AOS 79:44:36, sunset 80:21:05; IP-1, time of closest approach to target B-1 80:09:00. Now your two new control points that Jim gave us: control point number 1, acquisition 79:10:32, control point number 2, acquisition 79:23:14. Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Roger. Copy. Ready for the TEI.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Okay, Bill. Before we read the big TEI update here, I'd like to give Jim briefly a procedure for P22. When he comes to NOUN 89, we request that he do a VERB 34 ENTER. Do not proceed, and by so doing then, he will not incorporate the lat and longitude from his mark, and he will not change the reference value of the landing site, and we will solve this AUTO OPTICS problem. Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Let me see if I have this correct, Mike. When flashing 0689 comes up with the latitude and longitude information, I will not proceed but will go to VERB 34 and terminate. Is that correct?
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Yes, that is affirmative. Do a VERB 34 ENTER instead of a PROCEED. And that will -
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Alright. Is this technique true -
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Houston, is this technique true for both the node control point AUTO OPTICS on P25?
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Stand by one, Jim.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): And the LM …
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): That is affirmative, Apollo 8. That is always true.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Okay. Roger. True for the code AUTO OPTICS and no landmark. I'll proceed instead of going on—or I'll use 34 instead proceeding on 89.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Thank you, Jim, and I have the TEI 6 hour when you are ready—or TEI number 6.
03 06 28 45
Frank Borman (CDR): Go ahead.
03 06 28 52
Bill Anders (LMP): Ready to copy.
03 06 28 54
Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. I'm glad you are ready to copy TEI number 6. I've got one last comment for Jim before you do so. The VERB 89—or correction—the NOUN 89 we are talking about is the one that he gets after marking. There are two NOUN 89's, one prior to marking and one after, and our procedure references NOUN 89 after marking. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. Understand.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Thank you, and, Bill, you still ready to copy?
03 06 29 29
Bill Anders (LMP): Ready to copy, Mike.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): TEI 6, SPS/G&N: 45701, minus 040, plus 157. Are you with me so far?
03 06 29 56
Bill Anders (LMP): Roger.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): 081:21:24.43, plus 31776, minus 00823, minus 01365 180 016 001, not applicable, plus 00188. Are you still with me? Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): That's Roger.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Good. 31816 302 31624 40 2699 396 033, down 054, left 21, plus 0810 control minus 16500 12968 36222 146:42:04; GDC align remains the same; Sirius and Rigel, roll 129, pitch 155, yaw 010, ullage four quads for 15 seconds; horizon on 6-degree line at TIG minus 3 minutes. Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Roger, Houston. TEI 6, SPS/G&N: 45701, minus 040, plus 157 018:21:24.43, plus 31776, minus 00823, minus 01365 180 016 001, NA, plus 00188 31816 302 31624 40 2699. Are you with me?
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Yes, I'm with you, Bill.
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Bill Anders (LMP): 396 033, down 054, left 21, plus 08 10 minus 16500 12968 36222 146:42:04; same GDC align; Sirius and Rigel, 129 155 010, four jet, 15 seconds, horizon 6 degrees, TIG minus 3. Over.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger, Bill. On your ignition time, GETI is 81 hours, 081. Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Roger. Got it, 081.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Thank you, sir.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Thank you, Michael. As a matter of interest, these side windows are so hazy that when the sun shines on them, they just about—they are real poor for any visual observation or photography—heads-up.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Understand.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Go ahead, Houston.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. The last state vector updates we sent you, Jim, was to the LM slots, and you will have to transfer that over to the CSM slots using VERB 47 ENTER. Over.
03 06 36 52
Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. Will do.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Thank you.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Go ahead, Houston.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Bill has got his tape recorder back, and we noticed during that last dump, it was all in low bit rate. We wonder whether that was intentional or not? Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Roger. We didn't have much to say; we couldn't see out of the windows very well, Mike.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Understand.
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Bill Anders (LMP): It was really too bad.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. —
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Bill Anders (LMP): Go ahead —
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger, Bill. This next time around into the sunlight, we do not expect any problem with the primary evaporator. If it does start drying out, we think it is best just to close the back pressure valve, and there is no need to activate the secondary boiler. Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Okay. I guess the 6O-degree limit will still hold then.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Stand by.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. We are suggesting you disregard the 60 degree limit, and let it go ahead and rise up above 60. There is no need to activate the secondary. Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Okay. We just don't want to boil our IMU.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Understand then. Apollo 8, you are GO for the next lunar orbit REV.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Roger, Houston.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger, Houston. I'll read the book this time.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8 —
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. We have about 4-1/2 minutes left before we have LOS; we'd like your last PRD readout. Over.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Stand by. The commander is asleep; we'll get his when he wakes up. The LMP is still 6 … 0.64, C is 9, CMP is 0.09.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. copy 0.64, 0.09. Thank you.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. About 40 seconds to LOS, and everything's looking good down here.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger. Houston. We will give it another try here.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Houston, Apollo 8. Over.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Reading you very weak but—a lot of background noise. Welcome back around. How are you reading us?
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Bill Anders (LMP): Reading you fine.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Okay.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Houston, Apollo 8.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston. Go ahead.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Roger, Houston. A few words on our optics tracking system. I used AUTO OPTICS for control points 1 and 2 on the backside, and they worked beautifully, tracked both the targets for me. And I went to the control point 3 as designated in our orbital control book to see the latitude and longitude that was given to me and used AUTO OPTICS to track that particular coordinate system, and it was very close to the actual tracking plot. I picked the mark there where I did a final marking and recorded latitude and longitude. I'm now about to come up on the landing site and using AUTO OPTICS in the coded input to see how that works.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger, Apollo 8.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, Houston.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Go ahead.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. We know you're busy so we are not going to bother you. We are watching your progress on the DSKY. You are looking good; all your systems are looking good, and we have maneuver PAD's for you any time at your convenience.
03 07 59 52
Bill Anders (LMP): Roger. We will take them when we are doing the P52, if that's okay.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): That is just fine.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Mike, Apollo 8.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Apollo 8, go ahead.
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Jim Lovell (CMP): Mike, there are an awful lot of objects down on the landing site. It would just warm up Jack Schmidt's heart. The AUTO OPTICS are tracking perfectly on the target, and the two high peaks stand out beautifully. I have a beautiful view of it. The first I've seen just barely beneath the vertical now, and the second one coming up—It's just a grand view!
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger, Jim. Glad to hear it. Jack's listening.
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Bill Anders (LMP): Jack, the information—The triangles that we see now are from the first IP, second IP, and the B-1 are just right, I think, for landing conditions. The shadows aren't too deep for you to get confused, but the land has texture to it, and there are enough shadows there to make everything stand out.
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Bill Anders (LMP): If Jack's listening, tell him that the optical may be doing all right, but the eyeball is having a little trouble looking through all this smear on the windows.
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Mike Collins (CAPCOM): Roger. Understand the optics are doing better than the eyeballs. How about the cameras?

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