Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. We copy, and we are reading you loud and clear now, Bill. On your map update, did you copy that that I gave you previously?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Negative. We have not copied it yet.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. I have it for you again when you are ready to copy.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

This is a map update for REV's 4/5: LOS 76:59:59, sunrise 77:09:06, prime meridian 77:15:47, AOS 77:45:50, sunset 78:22:03; remarks: IP-1, acquisition time for CP2 is 77:29:42, IP-1 time closest approach for target B-1 78:10:25. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

That's right, and the prime meridian time is 77:15:47, and you got your computer back. We've got a good P27 update.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. We will go to P00 and TRANSFER.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston, do you have a TEI 5 for us?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

We are working on it now, Frank. Have it for you momentarily.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. On your back pressure valve, we would like to know how long after you closed the back pressure valve the first time—how long it was from the time you closed it until the time you started the reservicing? We would like for you to wait about 15 minutes to prevent any ice from forming due to flash freezing. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. I started immediately to reservice it.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. We show that you closed it this last time about 4 minutes ago, so we would like you to wait another 15 minutes and then try to reservice it again at that time and then go to AUTO. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. Thank you. The TEI 4 PAD which you have is still valid. We will have a TEI 5 PAD for you shortly.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Roger. Be advised we are presently in steam pressure MANUAL, and we're in H2O flow AUTO, and are now in H2O flow OFF, as of about 5 seconds ago.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. We copy that, Bill. And we confirm that's a good configuration.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Right now, I've got the H2 flow OFF. Do we stay that way?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. On your television update, we propose that you start the TV at the flight plan time of 85 hours 37 minutes and simply extend the stop time a few minutes. You're currently scheduled to stop at 86 hours, and we would like to keep it going until the terminator, which should be approximately 86:14. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Frank, I know you are busy up there. We've got the daily news for you whenever and if ever you'd like to hear it.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, this is Houston.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

I have the TEI 5 PAD for you whenever you are ready to copy.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. TEI 5, SPS/G&N: 47 correction—45701, minus 043, plus 116 079:21:26.03. Are you with me so far?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Plus 31171, minus 00767, minus 00214 180 017 001, not applicable, plus 00188 31181 259 31003. Are you with me? Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. 40 2711 398 033, down 043, left 23, plus 0832 minus 16500 12956 36208 146:39:44; north set of stars remain Sirius and Rigel; roll, pitch, and yaw remain same angles: 129 155 010, ullage remains two quads for 20 seconds, quads B and D; horizon on 4-degree line at TIG minus 3 minutes. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. Here we go: TEI 5, SPS/G&N 45701, minus 043, plus 116 079:21:26.03, plus 31171, minus 00767, minus 00214 180 017 001, NA, plus 00188 31181 259 31003 40 2711 398 033, down 043, left 23, plus 0832, minus 16500, plus 12956 36208 146:39:44. Set stars are the same; ullage—we'd like—do you have any objection to using four quads for 15 seconds?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

No objection to four-quad ullage, Apollo 8.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. We'd like to just go ahead and use four quads all times, unless we get a lot shorter on fuel than we are now.

Frank Borman (CDR)

And is that 15 seconds?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Affirmative: 15 seconds, four quads.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Thank you, and horizon is 4 degrees at minus —

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

That readback is correct, Frank, and we'd like to advise that the voice quality on that high bit rate is excellent. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Thank you. Mike, it's four quads for 15 seconds. Is that right?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

That is affirmative, Apollo 8: four quads for 15 seconds.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger for Bill. He can go ahead and do his standard reservice on the water now. It's looking good.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. You want us to reservice it now?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

That's affirmative, and upon completion, go back to AUTO.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. We are still dumping your tapes. The voice quality on high bit is coming through superb, and you are GO for the next rev. And we would like to get a brief status report on your rest between 60 hours and LOI 1, just to fill in some information for us.

Frank Borman (CDR)

We only got a couple hours rest.

Frank Borman (CDR)

We're tired right now, but we will have to wait until TEI before we get back to the regular cycle.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Alright. I suspect you're right.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay, Houston. The water boiler has been reserviced, back pressure valve CLOSED for 1 minute, water ON for 2, and it's now steam pressure AUTO, H2O flow AUTO.

Bill Anders (LMP)

If we have a problem, a similar problem, again on the back side in the sunlight, might be a good idea to crank the secondary loop until we have AOS. What do you think about that?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger, Jim. In regard to your evaporator, we feel that if you do have a similar problem next time on the back side in sunlight, check the evaporator outlet temperature, and if it gets above 60, we concur that it would be a good idea to bring up the secondary loop. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. When we say bring up the secondary loop, we mean bring up the evaporator only on the secondary loop. Copy?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Houston, Apollo 8. We got time for a little news?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

I say how about a little bit of that news you promised?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. We got the Interstellar Times here, the December 24 edition. Your TV program was a big success. It was viewed this morning by most of the nations of your neighboring planet; the earth. It was carried live all over Europe, including even Moscow and East Berlin, also in Japan and all of North and Central America and parts of South America. We don't know yet how extensive the coverage was in Africa. Are you copying me all right? Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

You are loud and clear.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Good. San Diego welcomed home today the Pueblo crew in a big ceremony. They had a pretty rough time of it in the Korean prison. Christmas cease-fire is in effect in Viet Nam, with only sporadic outbreaks of fighting. And if you haven't done your Christmas shopping by now, you better forget it.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

A couple of Oilers made the All-Star team, Webster and Farr.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

And that's about all our news. How about your news?

Frank Borman (CDR)

Well, we'll be looking forward to a big burn here shortly.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Mike, I think I can say it without contradiction, it's been a mighty long dry spell up here.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

I guess you can say anything you like without contradiction.

Frank Borman (CDR)

When can we dump water, Houston?

Frank Borman (CDR)

When can we dump water?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

We will get you the number after a while on your water dump. It looks like the quantity isn't increasing very slightly, and we're considering not only the quantity in regard to the dump, but also its effects on the trajectory relative to TEI and so forth, but we will have a good answer for you shortly.

Frank Borman (CDR)

We are not just thinking about the waste water tank: we're thinking about some other kind of water that has to get dumped out of the spacecraft, slightly used water.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. We have about three and a half minutes to LOS. We give you back the DSE under your control, and in regard to your water dump, we are tentatively predicting a waste water tank dump at about 80 hours GET and any other dumps are at your discretion, any time you would like to make them.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

People listening to the high bit rate down here say it's like sitting in your living room listening to good hi-fi.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Sounds like a good idea.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Coming up on 2 minutes to LOS. We got a good reservice on the primary evaporator, and everything is still looking very good down here.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. One minute to LOS. Are you still reading us loud and clear?

Frank Borman (CDR)

Loud and clear. Loud and clear.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay, fine. We've been noticing a little bit of increase in our background noise as you approach backside.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. We had to go off the high gain. That's why.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Have a good backside; we'll see you next time around.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, this is Houston. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Houston, Apollo 8. Go ahead.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. Read you loud and clear. Welcome back.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Roger. Looks like the evaporator—looks like the evaporator is holding okay, or at least it is trying to. It dropped the temperature down to about 32, and now it's come back up again and stabilized at about 42 degrees.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. Houston, this is Apollo 8. What we are doing on the control point tracking—I managed to look for a CP-1 at the same time we were trying to do a CP-2 on this rev. I picked up two marks which are just as small, but more easily recognizable, than the ones that were given to me. I know that I can repeat the process and pick the same small point on the next rev. Now I can try to look for the control points that are written down, but I think that I have better control over the ones that we have.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger, Jim. Understand. We'll check that for you.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. One more point: the control point times which you have given me are a little bit off, and I can notice by comparing these maps that these maps are not too well aligned either.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. These two small points that you can repeat your marks on: will you be able to identify those precisely on a map? Over.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

That's affirmative; that is why I picked them. They are both—they're both very prominent features, and they are both very small craters about the same size as the ones we are looking for, but I can pinpoint them on a map.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. One more comment: as it offered a lot of controversy at data priority meetings, it looks like 10 degrees pitch up is the best attitude to obtain the horizon so that you can follow the landmark down through the scanning telescope. If you pitch down any more, full up trunnion will not get the horizon, and the horizon is a great help in leading yourself into the control point.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Jim, we concur with your use of the two small craters which you can repeatedly mark on and find on the map; and also if you will give us your new latitudes and longitudes, we can compute for you a time of closest approach to those points with the spacecraft 10 degrees pitched-up. Over.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger, Houston. CP-1 latitude minus 606269, longitude over 2, minus 78954, altitude plus 00152; for CP-2 latitude minus 09638, longitude over 2, plus 81691, altitude minus 00007. I tried to get CP-3 at the same pass, but I let it go by to get set up for this first track at the landing site.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger, Houston. CP-1: would you say again the latitude, and on CP-2, say again the longitude CP-2, please?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. CP-1 latitude minus 06269; that is the latitude; and for longitude over 2 for CP-2, plus 81691.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. We copied them. Thank you.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

And it appears that resolve medium is a very good combination to track.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. I understand. Resolve medium.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

And it appears so far, Houston, that no spacecraft pitch motion is required to get five marks on the target in plenty of time.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. I understand you require no spacecraft motion to get five marks.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. I am about 15 minutes early with the TEI fix update and the map update. I will have them here whenever it's convenient for you to copy.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. Just a little bit, Mike.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. We would like to ask you to stop using AUTO OPTICS on the pseudo landing site. It's necessary that we send you up a P27 to update the RLS values stored in the computer. Over.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. I found … I went to MANUAL OPTICS on B-1.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. If you would go to P00 and ACCEPT, please, we are going to send you a P27 load which will update an RLS value which will be followed by a procedural change, Jim, we will give you later; and AUTO OPTICS should be working shortly.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. Or I could use no landmark AUTO OPTICS instead of the code.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. We are also sending you up a state vector update at the same time.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Okay. We will be expecting that.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. We're taking the DSE for a dump. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. We would like to take Bill's DSE for a dump. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Houston, Apollo 8. We're ready for the—your updates, your PAD's.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Roger. I have updates, a map update for REV 5/6, and TEI 6 update. Which would you like first?

Bill Anders (LMP)

Okay. I've got the map update page now. Why don't you give me that one?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay. Map update for REV 5/6. LOS 78:58:49, sunrise 79:08:07, prime meridian 79:14:30, AOS 79:44:36, sunset 80:21:05; IP-1, time of closest approach to target B-1 80:09:00. Now your two new control points that Jim gave us: control point number 1, acquisition 79:10:32, control point number 2, acquisition 79:23:14. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Roger. Copy. Ready for the TEI.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Okay, Bill. Before we read the big TEI update here, I'd like to give Jim briefly a procedure for P22. When he comes to NOUN 89, we request that he do a VERB 34 ENTER. Do not proceed, and by so doing then, he will not incorporate the lat and longitude from his mark, and he will not change the reference value of the landing site, and we will solve this AUTO OPTICS problem. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Let me see if I have this correct, Mike. When flashing 0689 comes up with the latitude and longitude information, I will not proceed but will go to VERB 34 and terminate. Is that correct?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Yes, that is affirmative. Do a VERB 34 ENTER instead of a PROCEED. And that will -

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Alright. Is this technique true -

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Houston, is this technique true for both the node control point AUTO OPTICS on P25?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

That is affirmative, Apollo 8. That is always true.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Okay. Roger. True for the code AUTO OPTICS and no landmark. I'll proceed instead of going on—or I'll use 34 instead proceeding on 89.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. Thank you, Jim, and I have the TEI 6 hour when you are ready—or TEI number 6.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. I'm glad you are ready to copy TEI number 6. I've got one last comment for Jim before you do so. The VERB 89—or correction—the NOUN 89 we are talking about is the one that he gets after marking. There are two NOUN 89's, one prior to marking and one after, and our procedure references NOUN 89 after marking. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Thank you, and, Bill, you still ready to copy?

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Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

TEI 6, SPS/G&N: 45701, minus 040, plus 157. Are you with me so far?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

081:21:24.43, plus 31776, minus 00823, minus 01365 180 016 001, not applicable, plus 00188. Are you still with me? Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Good. 31816 302 31624 40 2699 396 033, down 054, left 21, plus 0810 control minus 16500 12968 36222 146:42:04; GDC align remains the same; Sirius and Rigel, roll 129, pitch 155, yaw 010, ullage four quads for 15 seconds; horizon on 6-degree line at TIG minus 3 minutes. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Roger, Houston. TEI 6, SPS/G&N: 45701, minus 040, plus 157 018:21:24.43, plus 31776, minus 00823, minus 01365 180 016 001, NA, plus 00188 31816 302 31624 40 2699. Are you with me?

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Yes, I'm with you, Bill.

Bill Anders (LMP)

396 033, down 054, left 21, plus 08 10 minus 16500 12968 36222 146:42:04; same GDC align; Sirius and Rigel, 129 155 010, four jet, 15 seconds, horizon 6 degrees, TIG minus 3. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger, Bill. On your ignition time, GETI is 81 hours, 081. Over.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Thank you, Michael. As a matter of interest, these side windows are so hazy that when the sun shines on them, they just about—they are real poor for any visual observation or photography—heads-up.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Mike Collins (CAPCOM)

Roger. The last state vector updates we sent you, Jim, was to the LM slots, and you will have to transfer that over to the CSM slots using VERB 47 ENTER. Over.