Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger, just checking with you. Hey, if you all start having ground switching problems, how about having some place that has COMM come in and tell us about it. Will you please?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Roger. Apollo 8. That's what we have been trying to do. Some of our problem seems to be getting from here to that site.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston. Apollo 8. How do you read?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Loud and clear. How me?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Read you loud and clear.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. Go ahead Houston. Apollo 8.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Roger. We read you loud and clear and copy your remarks about having our remote site talk to you. Some of our problem has been in going from MCC to the remote site. We will attempt to do that anytime we can.

Frank Borman (CDR)

That's right. Just tell them you are having problems.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston, Apollo 8. How do you read?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Reading you weak but clear.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. Thank you, Jerry.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Go ahead, Houston, Apollo 8. Over.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger, Frank. I've got a little news and some ball scores if you want them.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Okay. The big news right now, on the wires, is that all 82 crewmen of the Pueblo have been returned. They walked across the Bridge of Freedom Monday night.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Said it took about 30 minutes for all 82 men to come across the Bridge of No Return and that's the one separating North and South Korea. They started across about 11:30 a.m. and were over by about noon, and they brought the body of the crewman that was killed, also.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Okay, Frank. On ball scores, did you get the word on the Baltimore and Minnesota game today?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Okay. Final score was the Colts 24, Vikings 14. That gives them the western conference, so it looks like for the NFL title it's gonna be the Browns versus the Colts on the 29th.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. Slow return—you'll get it.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. Come back slow return and we'll get it.

Frank Borman (CDR)

I'd rather come back fast and watch it on television.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Atta boy! Let's see, for the AFL: the big game today was Oakland and Kansas City and Oakland dumped them 41 to 6, so it's looks the AFL title game will be the Raiders and Jets.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Righto! That's hard to believe, that score.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Amen! Okay. In yesterday's game, I don't know it you got the score on that. The Cleveland Browns and the Cowboys. The Browns dumped the Cowboys 31 to 20.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Yes, they're crying in Dallas. Basketball scores: Houston didn't do so good this weekend. Illinois beat Houston 97 to 84. And North Carolina took the Owls. The score was 85 to 77. We had a couple of words in the paper, Frank, on the Oilers. The Oilers voted George Webster their most valuable player and—although Houston didn't make anybody on the All Offensive Team this year, they put Walt Suggs and Hoyle Granger on the second team.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

But although the Oilers didn't do so well out on the field, they did great in the box office. Bud Adams, Don Klausterman and Wally Lemm were all—real pleased with it. By the way, they were at the Cape to watch the show. Houston in 11 games—the Oilers attracted 460 628 people.

Frank Borman (CDR)

That must be a record? For them? I don't believe they ever got that many in Rice Stadium.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

I think so. Let's see the regular season attendance was about half that. This includes all the exhibition games. The paper says they averaged about 40 480 for the league games.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Well, that's about it for now, Frank. We got some more news that they promised they would bring over as soon as it comes off the wire. The only thing of real interests were—particularly the Pueblo release. I think you've already been told about the—Nixon-Eisenhower wedding. And about the only other thing is the weather which is pretty clear around here. We've got high overcasts. But it is cold, good visibility, and it's beginning to feel like winter again.

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Frank Borman (CDR)

Good time for Christmas, good weather for Christmas.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Who have you got up now, Frank?

Frank Borman (CDR)

The other two guys are pretty sleepy. They sacked out again. So I am holding the fort down for a while.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Frank, we had a little egg nog over at Charlie Duke's tonight.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

We had a little egg nog at Charlie Duke's tonight. Val Anders dropped by. She's looking fine. Tell Bill she's doing real fine.

Frank Borman (CDR)

How do you like shift work, Jerry?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

It's great Frank. You've got the black watch watching you tonight.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Yes, that's what I figured.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Boy, Jerry. That earth is sure looking small.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. I guess it'll get smaller, too.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Yes, we're getting along pretty good, though, now.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Real good. It looks like you're approaching 150 000 miles.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

How does the moon look, Frank?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Have you looked at the moon lately?

Frank Borman (CDR)

No. I saw it yesterday, but we haven't seen it today.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Frank, you've probably already been told this, but you looked great on TV today. One little homey item, though. In the El Lago area you were upstaged by Santa Claus. He came along on a fire engine just about the time you guys came along. So most of the little critters were all outside.

Frank Borman (CDR)

That's good. I wish we could have got that one lens working. I'd like to share the view here we have of the earth.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Frank, we've got some guys looking at it. We might be able to find a way to make it work for you. Hopefully, by a couple of hours before TV time tomorrow, we'll have an answer.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Jack Schmitt is working with us, too.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Ah, Jack Schmitt's working with it, too.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Very good. That's Typhoid Jack.

Frank Borman (CDR)

This COMM so good we don't figure we'll have much to debrief.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. Probably the biggest part of the debrief will be the medical part.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. You're sure right. Oh, we're all in fine shape.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston, Apollo 8. We have just completed the canister change.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Roger. Copy.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, this is Houston. We have a handover coming up in 2-1/2 minutes to Guam. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay, Jerry. Thank you. Hey, Jerry?

Frank Borman (CDR)

How about a long-range guess on what the weather is going to be like in the recovery area on Friday.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston, with a weather watch.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger, Frank. For 7 degrees, 38 minutes north, 165 west landing area, we are showing 2000 scattered, 12 000 broken, high over at 10; the wind's from the east at 12, 4-foot swells, about an 82 degree temperature. There will be some rain showers in about 10 to 30 percent of the area with ceilings around 2000. If there is—turns out to be a thunderstorm in the area, it will probably have a ceiling around 500 feet.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Did you copy that weather okay?

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. I said thank you. Do you read me now?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. Reading you much better. We got the voice coming down through Honeysuckle now.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger, Frank. Can you cycle the H2 and O2 cryo fans now for us?

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. Will turn her now, the H2. Manual—2 minutes.

Frank Borman (CDR)

You may need to call us now and then. Everybody is a little drowsy.

Frank Borman (CDR)

That completes it, Jerry. They're all cycled through.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger, Frank.

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Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Roger.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Did you get my message about the fans?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Sure did, Frank. Thanks.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. The cabin temperature is down to 60, and it's getting pretty chilly in here. Have you got any approved solutions on how to bring it up without stirring up this nice thermal balance we have?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Frank, do you have your cabin fans on?

Frank Borman (CDR)

We haven't had them on since we separated.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger, Frank. Midcourse number 3 looks like just a shade more than 1 foot per second, so we don't recommend that you do it. That leads us off into a midcourse 4 of only about 3 feet per second right now. Your trajectory is looking real good. Your height at pericynthian is 70 miles.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. Understand. Thank you.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. Roger, Frank. Little few thoughts on what is coming up now. The star sightings when Jim gets up; looks right now like we've had enough of the earth horizon, and everything looks real good; and we are ready to start on some lunar horizon sightings. So when Jim gets up, we will pass the flight plan update to him for a set of stars with the moon. Also, around 48, or after the star sightings is when we would like to see your next water dump come up. So, if you can, I recommend you get a little shuteye.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. Have you got any answer about warming this place up a little bit?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. They are still cranking around. They are talking about cabin fans, but that sounds like sort of a noisy proposition.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, this is Houston. I have got two methods for you to warm up the cabin there. The first one is a one-man job—about the best way would be to put one or both cabin fans ON and go full hot on the cabin heat exchanger. It'll be a fairly slow process of warming up, and you won't get a whole lot of heating. Your second method would be to adjust with the mixing valve your radiator OUT temperatures. This, again, is a two-man job, and you have to be pretty careful.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. Well, Frank just went to bed, and Bill isn't up yet. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll put on the fans and go HIGH on the cabin temperature and see what that does.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Okay, Jim. Remember, if you use just one fan, cover the other.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. If I use just one fan—You mentioned about covering the other one—are you sure that's true in this spacecraft?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. That's affirmative.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

I thought that was a BLOCK I problem.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Stand by, Jim. We'll recheck on that one.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8, Houston. Did you get the word from Frank on the star-sighting plans?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. I'll get out the flight plan if you have an update to it now, though, then we can update it right now.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Roger. Are you ready for that flight plan update?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Okay. At 47:15, delete the P23 sightings you're shoving there; and at 45 minutes—correction, 45 hours, add one additional set of sightings to each star.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Okay. You said at 45 hours we're going to add one set of sightings to each of the three stars. Is that correct?

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

That's affirmative. Everybody's real pleased with the earth horizon work; and as far as we're concerned, you can knock that off, and just add one set to each one of your lunar horizon stars at about 45. This 45-hour time also is not hard. You can shift it as your—as you desire.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. I see things coming up now. Jerry, we're going to get the block data around 44, and we'll do alignment around 44:30 and then we'll go into cislunar navigation.

Jerry Carr (CAPCOM)

Okay. Fine, Jim. Then remember after you do the sightings, we'll want you to go back to the PTC mode again. And a little curiosity, how's the water tasting, and how did you sleep?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Water's tasting okay; no problems. And the sleep is getting better: We find it better to sleep underneath the couch now. I was up here with Frank, and I was dozing off periodically over the last several hours. Frank's now below and Bill's below, too.