Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. The first one I will give you is a TLI plus 44 maneuver PAD. I will start reading down the left-hand column. TLI plus 44, SPS/G&N 62970, minus 162, plus 129 046:56:04.31, plus 00197, plus all zeros, plus 607 01 180 133, 001 November Alfa, plus 002 03 607 01 704 604 51 12 1375 349.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Boresight star is earth, down 037, right 22, plus 10 68, minus 165 00 128 56 361 18 098:27:17. The GDC alignment stars: the primary star is Sirius, secondary Rigel 010, 294, 320, no ullage, path return P37 DELTA-V, 8750. This goes to the Indian Ocean and requires a high-speed procedure, that is minus Mike Alfa, and that will refer to your checklist page November Charlie 1. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay, Houston. How do you read?

Frank Borman (CDR)

TLI plus 44, SPS/G&N 62970, minus 162, plus 129 046:56:04.31, plus 00197, plus all zeros, plus 60701 180 133 001, plus 00203, plus 60701 704 60451 12 1375 349; earth, down 037, right 2.2, plus 1068, minus 165 12856 36118 098:27:17; Sirius and Rigel. Hello, Houston. How do you read now?

Frank Borman (CDR)

Sirius and Rigel, 010 294 320, no ullage, path return P37 DELTA-V 8750, Indian Ocean minus MA, checklist NC 1.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

That's affirmative, Apollo 8. And I have a flyby PAD for you, also.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. This flyby PAD is an update to one that we gave you yesterday so you might want to note that this is the second one. And it will be a flyby SPS/G&N; 62970, minus 162, plus 129 060:59:48.07, plus 00966, plus 00552, minus 02079. Roll, pitch, and yaw are all zeros, November Alfa, perigee height plus 00202 02358 022 02281 03 0407 317 013, up 047, right 39, plus 1418 minus 16505 12904 36160 146:29:12, primary star Sirius, secondary Rigel, 136 310 340, no ullage, requires realignment to preferred REFSMMAT. This burn will raise perilune to 550 miles. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay, Houston. The second flyby SPS/G&N. Are you with me?

Frank Borman (CDR)

62970, minus 162, plus 129 060:59:48.07, plus 00966, plus 00552, minus 02079. Next three are all zeros, NA, plus 00202 02358 022 02281 03 0407 317 013, up 04.7, right 3.9, plus 1418, minus 16505, plus 12904, plus 36160 146:29:12. Sirius, Rigel, 136 310 340, none, requires realignment to preferred REFSMMAT. Pericynthian to 550 miles.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

That's correct, Apollo 8.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. The CMP is now up. We'll proceed with the 52 option and start on the cislunar navigation.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Thank you, and we'll start looking for some star data.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. When you pick up your activities, I have a preferred alignment here that I want you to be in when you do your P52, and I'll have about four items to change on your time lines, so if you give me a call when you're ready for it.

Frank Borman (CDR)

We're ready right now. We were doing the P52. You want to hold off and go to a particular alignment, is that right?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. The attitude is pitch 23.4, roll 184.7, yaw 14.3. And the reason we're doing the alignment in this attitude is, the next thing we'll be coming up with is the scanning telescope visibility test and that will be 70 degrees sun and Arcturus with a shaft and trunnion of zero. and then we can go ahead with the P52 and then a trunnion bias followed by P23 with the same stars we read to you before.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston, Apollo 8. We're maneuvering to the angles you—you gave us.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston, we've reached the preferred attitude, and we're proceeding with the P52.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Real fine, and I'll pass up some advice from your friendly flight surgeon. He says you're supposed to take one more Lomotil.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. Everybody, or just me?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Houston, the P52 is completed. We're ready for your other data.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Understand that you've done the P52. The next item on the flight plan should be a scanning telescope visibility test, and this is the same one that was on your flight plan previously at 34 hours and about 12 minutes, and we'll be checking that 70 degree sun's on Arcturus. Following that, we need to make a trunnion bias check, and then we'll go into a P23, and I can read you those star numbers and sets if you don't have them from the last time I read them up.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. With such good visibility or such good communications, we'll just give you a verbal description without seeing the scanning telescope right now. Your angles for maneuvering to Arcturus were quite good. I've got Arcturus centered in the scanning telescope. At this sun angle, there is a shaft of light directly across the center of the scanning telescope and—band of light. It precludes seeing a lot of stars around us, and although I kept my eye glued to the telescope now for some time, it's very difficult to see any star patterns or anything. I couldn't recognize that with Arcturus unless I—the optics just drove me there. Now because I'm near zero shaft and zero trunnion, I'm getting quite a bit of shaft movement. Everytime the shaft moves, more particles leave the optics, and they're just as bright as the surrounding stars. And they mingle in the stars, and you can't tell star patterns or constellations. With this particular attitude, the shaft of light precludes any identification of constellations or individual stars.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Copy that. Can you tell us something about the orientation of this band? You mentioned that last night also—that you also had a band about 10 degrees wide that ran across. Is there an orientation that we can tie that to?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

I believe so, Ken. This band is parallel to the M-line, and I think it has something to do with the design of the optics where we have that shaft or the rectangular entrance of the optics from the outside. At this particular sun angle, it cuts right across. Now I noticed that both the earth and the sun do this to the scanning telescope. In the sextant, the same light band is there, although it covers the entire sextant's field of view. However, the magnification brings out the stars quite well, and it is possible to mark on it. But the identification of the stars with the scanning telescope makes it very difficult. Now the attitude that I found the optics are best at are the attitudes which give the constellations Canis Major and Orion in the scanning telescope. At this, this particular attitude of the spacecraft, the band is gone; we're at a position whereby the sun is behind us, and I can see quite a few stars. Now yesterday I could also, after getting dark-adapted, see quite a few stars around the constellation Cassiopeia which at first I couldn't. But right now this band precludes you see anything at all except Arcturus which, of course, I know we're aiming at right now.

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Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Thank you very much.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Ken, what stars did you want to use? Did you want to read them off?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. First star will be 26, and we'll be making two sets of measurements, earth near-horizon using star 26. Then we would like to have one set on star 16, that's 16, using the earth far-horizon. If it turns out that star 26 earth near-horizon is not possible, then we'd like to have star 16 on the earth far-horizon for one set, and star 22 earth far-horizon one set. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

You want star 26, earth near-horizon, two sets; star 16, earth far-horizon, one set; and star 22, earth far-horizon, one set.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. That's star 22 only in the event that 26 on the earth's near horizon is not possible? Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

We won't even do star 22 then unless we can't get 26 on the near horizon.

Bill Anders (LMP)

COMM sure is good all of a sudden, isn't it?

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Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Yes, this is outstanding.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay, we have completed two sets on 26 and one set on 16.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Roger. Getting pretty speedy there.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Jim is getting to know the objects.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Are you receiving the data, Houston?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay, Apollo 8. We have looked at the data and it looks good and they feel like you can go back to PTC attitude anytime you are ready to. And if you can—go ahead.

Frank Borman (CDR)

What attitude do you want to use? The same one?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay, if you can reach over Bill there and get to panel 3, I believe we would like to cycle the oxygen fans. And also like to get the BIOMED switch over to CMP.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

If you have to bother Bill to do that, why, we can hold off on the cryo fans.

Frank Borman (CDR)

No, he moved. We already chased him under the seat. Okay, now you want just the oxygen fans on?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

That's affirm. Turn one on for about 2 minutes and when we turn it off, then we will turn the next one on. We don't want to turn them on simultaneously though.

Frank Borman (CDR)

I know that. I mean you don't want hydrogen though?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

That's affirmative. Just the oxygen.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Ken, just recap a little explanation here on your maneuver PAD, something which I'm really not knowledgeable about, the way it was presented to us, you mentioned fast return P37 DELTA-V of 8750, just briefly clarify that, will you please?

Frank Borman (CDR)

Ken, can you give us a little report on how our trajectory looks and the tracking is going and things like that?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay, sure will. I will put a summary together here.

Frank Borman (CDR)

And the pericynthian sign.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Roger, we will get all that together for you in just a few minutes.

Frank Borman (CDR)

And we never did get the news.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Come off it, come off it.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay, the fans have been cycled 2 minutes each and they are back off.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay, thank you very much.

Bill Anders (LMP)

Houston, Apollo 8 is back in the PTC attitude, reads MHPTC.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay, thank you. And in reference to your question about the P37 DELTA-V, 8750, that's the number that goes into the option at P37 for your minimum time return. That gives you a target for the Indian Ocean. And in this case, we are going to have to use the high-speed procedures that were worked out for you to use some minus number for the major axis.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. Understand. I'm going to give that a try, Ken, in a run through. I tried it yesterday, I wasn't getting too much in the way of results. I will give it a try today.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. And on the—your tracking that we have now, it still looks like the time we gave you last night for time of pericynthian is still good, 69 plus 10 and right now your flyby earth pericynthian altitude is 65.8. Looks like the midcourse number 3 is going to be something less than 1 foot-per-second. And all trajectory parameters are still holding real fine.

Frank Borman (CDR)

That's the things we like to hear. We would like to keep those holding very much.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. We're getting near—we're going to need to dump some urine overboard here. I wonder if that's going to foul your trajectory up. Or can we go ahead and do it?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

No, that's okay. Something that is kind of interesting though is that the last time you had your water dump, they noticed a change in the trajectory tracking at the same time and they got through correlating it, they found some fellow that thought he knew the characteristics of a nozzle and how much water you're dumping and his estimates of the effect on the trajectory seemed to coincide with the tracked results. So I guess you have to stay onto some of those things.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Roger. Okay. We'll go ahead and dump it.