Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. Thank you, Hawaii. How do you read?

Milt Windler (FLIGHT)

Hawaii, Houston Network. Voice check on GOSS Conference.

CommTech

Hawaii LOS. Unable to find.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Hawaii, this is Houston CAP COM. Over.

CommTech

Houston CAP COM, Hawaii.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Hawaii, Houston CAP COM. I would like to have a voice check.

CommTech

Roger. I read you loud and clear.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. I'm reading you loud and clear. I understand you have contact with the spacecraft. Is that affirm?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

I have uplink voice to the spacecraft; the downlink is too low in the mud.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Understand that you have good uplink, but your downlink is in the mud. You don't have any way of copying it either, is that correct —

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston, Apollo 8. … again. How do you read?

CommTech

That is affirmative.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay, Hawaii, we can hear Apollo 8, calling down. Would you answer and tell them that we did copy that?

CommTech

Apollo 8, Hawaii M&O. Houston reports they copied your last.

Milt Windler (FLIGHT)

Hawaii, Houston Network, GOSS Conference.

Milt Windler (FLIGHT)

Hawaii, Houston Network, GOSS Conference. Your NET 2.

CommTech

Houston Network, Hawaii.

Milt Windler (FLIGHT)

Roger. Did you copy the CAP COM?

CommTech

Affirm. We copied the CAP COM.

Milt Windler (FLIGHT)

Is he keying the transmitters out there?

CommTech

He did key it one time, Network.

Milt Windler (FLIGHT)

Okay. I'm going to ask him to call the spacecraft again, and I would like for you to give me a report if he does not key the transmitters.

CommTech

Roger, Network. Is our NET 1 now conferenced up —

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Your NET 2 is conferenced to our GOSS Conference here.

CommTech

Roger. How about our GOSS Conference loop?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Your GOSS Conference loop is dead.

CommTech

Roger. We are GO for command. We were unable to transmit before.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

We transmitted to the spacecraft as per CAP COM and they acknowledged our transmission.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. We got back together again. You're loud and clear. We've been reading you. We have a problem down here on the ground getting our signal from MCC out to remote site.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Apollo 8. Houston. I've got a ball score for you. It was Oakland 41, Kansas City 6 is the final score. That's 41 to 6, Oakland. We're trying to get some news releases over here for you. I suspect we're going to find that the staged TV show was probably the biggest news of the day.

Frank Borman (CDR)

I'm sorry that the TV lens broke down.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Well, we're working on that some more. I'm not sure that the whole thing is lost yet. It appears that our problem is one where the light intensity which is sensed by our light meter in there is picking up an average field which is much larger than the earth, and so it's sensing a great deal of deep space environment which is dark, and we're suspicious that this is probably opening up the lens aperture as wide as it will go, and then when you point the camera at the earth while the earth is only filling about 3 degrees of cone angle, whereas lens takes in 9. So it looks like you're probably just saturating the tube. Now we're playing around now with some —

Frank Borman (CDR)

We just lost you again, Houston.

Frank Borman (CDR)

I just lost your last transmission; you were clipped.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

0kay. Did you get any of my comments about the TV tube?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. What I—what we've got in mind here is that we are looking at some of the lenses you have on board for cameras, and we are going to see if one of them can possibly be used to attenuate some of this light so that you will be able to take one of these pictures, and we are running some tests now, and we'll let you know about those. I also have a maneuver PAD that I need to read up to you whenever it's convenient.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Let me get a pencil. Be fine right now.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Go ahead, Houston.

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Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. The first one I will give you is a TLI plus 44 maneuver PAD. I will start reading down the left-hand column. TLI plus 44, SPS/G&N 62970, minus 162, plus 129 046:56:04.31, plus 00197, plus all zeros, plus 607 01 180 133, 001 November Alfa, plus 002 03 607 01 704 604 51 12 1375 349.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Boresight star is earth, down 037, right 22, plus 10 68, minus 165 00 128 56 361 18 098:27:17. The GDC alignment stars: the primary star is Sirius, secondary Rigel 010, 294, 320, no ullage, path return P37 DELTA-V, 8750. This goes to the Indian Ocean and requires a high-speed procedure, that is minus Mike Alfa, and that will refer to your checklist page November Charlie 1. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay, Houston. How do you read?

Frank Borman (CDR)

TLI plus 44, SPS/G&N 62970, minus 162, plus 129 046:56:04.31, plus 00197, plus all zeros, plus 60701 180 133 001, plus 00203, plus 60701 704 60451 12 1375 349; earth, down 037, right 2.2, plus 1068, minus 165 12856 36118 098:27:17; Sirius and Rigel. Hello, Houston. How do you read now?

Frank Borman (CDR)

Sirius and Rigel, 010 294 320, no ullage, path return P37 DELTA-V 8750, Indian Ocean minus MA, checklist NC 1.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

That's affirmative, Apollo 8. And I have a flyby PAD for you, also.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. This flyby PAD is an update to one that we gave you yesterday so you might want to note that this is the second one. And it will be a flyby SPS/G&N; 62970, minus 162, plus 129 060:59:48.07, plus 00966, plus 00552, minus 02079. Roll, pitch, and yaw are all zeros, November Alfa, perigee height plus 00202 02358 022 02281 03 0407 317 013, up 047, right 39, plus 1418 minus 16505 12904 36160 146:29:12, primary star Sirius, secondary Rigel, 136 310 340, no ullage, requires realignment to preferred REFSMMAT. This burn will raise perilune to 550 miles. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay, Houston. The second flyby SPS/G&N. Are you with me?

Frank Borman (CDR)

62970, minus 162, plus 129 060:59:48.07, plus 00966, plus 00552, minus 02079. Next three are all zeros, NA, plus 00202 02358 022 02281 03 0407 317 013, up 04.7, right 3.9, plus 1418, minus 16505, plus 12904, plus 36160 146:29:12. Sirius, Rigel, 136 310 340, none, requires realignment to preferred REFSMMAT. Pericynthian to 550 miles.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

That's correct, Apollo 8.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. The CMP is now up. We'll proceed with the 52 option and start on the cislunar navigation.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Thank you, and we'll start looking for some star data.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Go ahead, Houston. Apollo 8.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. When you pick up your activities, I have a preferred alignment here that I want you to be in when you do your P52, and I'll have about four items to change on your time lines, so if you give me a call when you're ready for it.

Frank Borman (CDR)

We're ready right now. We were doing the P52. You want to hold off and go to a particular alignment, is that right?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. The attitude is pitch 23.4, roll 184.7, yaw 14.3. And the reason we're doing the alignment in this attitude is, the next thing we'll be coming up with is the scanning telescope visibility test and that will be 70 degrees sun and Arcturus with a shaft and trunnion of zero. and then we can go ahead with the P52 and then a trunnion bias followed by P23 with the same stars we read to you before.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston, Apollo 8. We're maneuvering to the angles you—you gave us.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Houston, we've reached the preferred attitude, and we're proceeding with the P52.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Real fine, and I'll pass up some advice from your friendly flight surgeon. He says you're supposed to take one more Lomotil.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Okay. Everybody, or just me?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Houston, the P52 is completed. We're ready for your other data.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Understand that you've done the P52. The next item on the flight plan should be a scanning telescope visibility test, and this is the same one that was on your flight plan previously at 34 hours and about 12 minutes, and we'll be checking that 70 degree sun's on Arcturus. Following that, we need to make a trunnion bias check, and then we'll go into a P23, and I can read you those star numbers and sets if you don't have them from the last time I read them up.

Jim Lovell (CMP)

Roger. With such good visibility or such good communications, we'll just give you a verbal description without seeing the scanning telescope right now. Your angles for maneuvering to Arcturus were quite good. I've got Arcturus centered in the scanning telescope. At this sun angle, there is a shaft of light directly across the center of the scanning telescope and—band of light. It precludes seeing a lot of stars around us, and although I kept my eye glued to the telescope now for some time, it's very difficult to see any star patterns or anything. I couldn't recognize that with Arcturus unless I—the optics just drove me there. Now because I'm near zero shaft and zero trunnion, I'm getting quite a bit of shaft movement. Everytime the shaft moves, more particles leave the optics, and they're just as bright as the surrounding stars. And they mingle in the stars, and you can't tell star patterns or constellations. With this particular attitude, the shaft of light precludes any identification of constellations or individual stars.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Copy that. Can you tell us something about the orientation of this band? You mentioned that last night also—that you also had a band about 10 degrees wide that ran across. Is there an orientation that we can tie that to?

Jim Lovell (CMP)

I believe so, Ken. This band is parallel to the M-line, and I think it has something to do with the design of the optics where we have that shaft or the rectangular entrance of the optics from the outside. At this particular sun angle, it cuts right across. Now I noticed that both the earth and the sun do this to the scanning telescope. In the sextant, the same light band is there, although it covers the entire sextant's field of view. However, the magnification brings out the stars quite well, and it is possible to mark on it. But the identification of the stars with the scanning telescope makes it very difficult. Now the attitude that I found the optics are best at are the attitudes which give the constellations Canis Major and Orion in the scanning telescope. At this, this particular attitude of the spacecraft, the band is gone; we're at a position whereby the sun is behind us, and I can see quite a few stars. Now yesterday I could also, after getting dark-adapted, see quite a few stars around the constellation Cassiopeia which at first I couldn't. But right now this band precludes you see anything at all except Arcturus which, of course, I know we're aiming at right now.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. Thank you very much.

Frank Borman (CDR)

Ken, what stars did you want to use? Did you want to read them off?

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. First star will be 26, and we'll be making two sets of measurements, earth near-horizon using star 26. Then we would like to have one set on star 16, that's 16, using the earth far-horizon. If it turns out that star 26 earth near-horizon is not possible, then we'd like to have star 16 on the earth far-horizon for one set, and star 22 earth far-horizon one set. Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

You want star 26, earth near-horizon, two sets; star 16, earth far-horizon, one set; and star 22, earth far-horizon, one set.

Ken Mattingly (CAPCOM)

Okay. That's star 22 only in the event that 26 on the earth's near horizon is not possible? Over.

Frank Borman (CDR)

We won't even do star 22 then unless we can't get 26 on the near horizon.